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Torpedoman's Mate sailor
TM

Torpedoman's Mate

Maintains and handles torpedoes, missiles, and underwater weapons systems aboard submarines and surface ships.

Overall

4.1/10
Promotion4.8
Lifestyle4.0
Civilian ROI1.8
Happiness5.0
Manning %8.4
$$$ Pay1.9

Quick Stats

Enlistment BonusNo active bonus
Civilian Sector Transferability$40k–$65k
Promotion Speed
Manning %78%
Initial Contract4 yr, 5 yr, 6 yr

Security Clearance

Secret~$3K–$15K civilian sector value

Requires a National Agency Check with Local Agency Check and Credit Check (NACLC). Processing typically takes 1–3 months and is initiated early in your training pipeline.

ASVAB Requirements

AFQT Minimum

50

MEC

210

Who This Is Best For

Best for weapons-focused individuals who want a hands-on ordnance career in a small, specialized community. If you're drawn to torpedo and missile systems and prefer a focused weapons specialty over a generalist role, this rate offers unique submarine and surface warfare opportunities with solid advancement.

+Pros

  • Strong civilian career transition

Cons

  • Significant sea duty

Real Opinions

+Positive

The excitement level amongst the sailors is through the roof. It is the right time for a change like this to light the fire under our sailors.

Military.com|

Achieved E-5 rank within 3 years of becoming a submariner without joining a special program.

Glassdoor|

I would recommend TM to anyone considering it. The training is solid and the community takes care of its own.

r/navy|

Critical & Mixed

Like any rate, TM has its downsides. Long hours, time away from family, and Navy bureaucracy are real.

TM is a very small rate and advancement can be slow at the senior levels because there just aren't enough billets. The work itself — maintaining torpedoes and weapons handling systems — is interesting, but the niche skills don't transfer easily to civilian careers. Most former TMs end up in general technician or manufacturing roles.

Reddit r/navy|

Being a Torpedoman means you're working with explosive ordnance and weapons systems in confined submarine torpedo rooms. The safety requirements are extreme and the stress of handling live weapons never fully goes away. The submarine lifestyle compounds the difficulty — months underwater with no break from the job.

Indeed|

Recruiter vs Reality

What the recruiter says vs. what it's actually like.

🫡 Recruiter says

The TM rate offers great training and career advancement opportunities!

Training and advancement are available but vary by command and manning. Ask specific questions about sea/shore rotation, typical duty stations, and advancement rates for TM.

🫡 Recruiter says

TM is one of the most exciting submarine rates.

Loading and maintaining torpedoes involves heavy lifting in cramped torpedo rooms. The excitement of a torpedo launch happens only during exercises, not daily operations.

🫡 Recruiter says

Torpedoman's Mates handle torpedoes on submarines.

TM maintains and loads torpedo systems on submarines. The rate is small and specialized. Most of your time is maintenance and certifications, not launching torpedoes.

🫡 Recruiter says

Torpedoman's Mates are submarine weapons specialists — you manage torpedoes, missiles, and countermeasures.

💀 Reality

Loading a torpedo involves the entire weapons department and precision in one of the most cramped spaces on the boat. It is heavy, physical work.

🫡 Recruiter says

TM is an action-oriented rate — you handle live ordnance and weapons systems.

💀 Reality

Actual torpedo shoots are rare. Most of your time is maintaining hydraulic launch systems, high-pressure air, and doing weapons department PMS. The daily job is mechanical maintenance and safety checks.

🫡 Recruiter says

The TM rate was re-established in 2019 because of its proud heritage.

💀 Reality

TM is still a small submarine-only rate — roughly 1,100 sailors total. Limited billet options, primarily at Groton, Bangor, or Kings Bay.

🫡 Recruiter says

TMs serve on submarines — the silent service is an elite community.

💀 Reality

Submarine life means months underwater, hot-racking, zero privacy, and limited communication with family. The qualification process to earn dolphins is intense and the pressure to finish is relentless.

🫡 Recruiter says

TM skills in hydraulics and weapons systems give you civilian job options.

💀 Reality

The hydraulic and pneumatic skills transfer to industrial maintenance, aerospace, and defense. But "torpedo weapons systems" does not appear on civilian job postings. You need to translate your experience and may need additional certifications.

🫡 Recruiter says

TMs are part of the weapons department — the most important department on a submarine.

💀 Reality

You also handle small arms, ammunition stowage, and magazine sprinkler systems in addition to torpedoes. You are also expected to qualify submarine-wide watchstations that have nothing to do with weapons.

Training Pipeline — Total ~18 weeks (4 months)

8w
10w
Boot Camp8 weeks
RTC Great Lakes, IL
Basic military training for all recruits
A-School10 weeks
NTTC Great Lakes, IL
6.8% washout
Technical training for rating qualification
Fleet Assignment0 weeks
First duty station
Report to operational command

Ship Date Calculator

Enter your MEPS ship date to see when you'll complete each stage.

Promotion SpeedEarn higher pay fasterManning 78% (E-4/E-5)

Cycle (Year)EligibleSelectedPromotion %
E-4252-Spring(2024)1097771%
E-4252-Fall(2024)1172219%
E-5252-Spring(2024)1663622%
E-5252-Fall(2024)160159%
E-6252-Spring(2024)352057%
E-6252-Fall(2024)451124%

Bonuses — Click here to see your military pay

Enlistment Bonus

No active bonus for this rate

You May Qualify for a Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC)

Specialties within this rate you can select, some with additional compensation. Each NEC has its own training, bonus potential, and career path.

TM196Weapons System Supervisor

Primary specialty code for Torpedoman's Mate rating

TM264Ordnance Handling Officer Assistant

Advanced specialty code for experienced Torpedoman's Mate personnel

Potential Civilian Post-Navy Outcomes

Ordnance Disposal Technician

Transferability: 3/10

$40k–$65k

Lifestyle4/10

Ship vs. Shore Split

65% / 35%

Deployment Frequency

High

Physical Demand

high — mixed

Watch Standing

3-section underway (8 on / 16 off)

In a 3-section rotation, the crew is divided into three teams. Each team stands an 8-hour watch shift, then has 16 hours off. In port, you stand 24-hour duty roughly every 3 days — one out of every three nights you stay aboard the ship. Underway (when attached to a ship command), the watch schedule runs continuously with shorter rest periods between shifts.

Watch qualifications vary by command and platform. Expect to qualify within 90 days of reporting.